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2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
skytrader
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 06:44
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dear support team,
unfortunately i have to notice another rule vioaltion by the user rahulkghosh.
in fact he violates 2 rules of the code of conduct. i have screenshots of all the evidence.
80 minutes ago, user Victor who is directly behind the two competitors of rahulgkghosh has posted the following (all evdidence in the screenshots!) in rahuls blog:
"Rahul many thanks for the 110 (or 111 i lost count) comments in my blog. P"
i made also some screenshots of example comments. rahul posted always the same comment/text. rahul must have gave him most of these comments at the weekend or in the last hours, all at once. i am sure your database shows when.
not only that these comments are totally sensless, (always the same text! "good trade +1)), which violates the "rule senselss comments" they also vioalte the rule "posting lots of similar comments with any purpose", which is strictly forbidden.
the only purpose of these 110 comments at once is to harm the competitors arturs10 and peterisp through giving Victor an unfair advance in popularity over them.
THIS IS MORE THAN UNFAIR AND A CLEAR VIOLATION OFN THE CODE OF CONDUCT.
i am really curious what dukascopy will do about this one! and i bet all the other traders are also looking how this unfair practices get treated by the support team.
best regards
skytrader
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 07:44
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as far as i have seen it on the first 8 pages of "Victors" blog, all comments have exactly the same text, and they were all given by copy/paste in a timeframe of 60 to 90 minutes.
110 (or even more according to victor) comments all at once. 110 times "good trade +1"
i really dont understand why a trader who is first in pip performance and balance tries to defend his popularity ranking with such unfair and clearly ilegit means???
i mean i know the reason, nut i simply dont udnerstand how soemone can have so little respect towards this contest and the other traders to break so obviously the rules.
Victor, Petersip and Arturs10 are direct competitors for the high 80s of pop points.
i would appreciate it very much, if we can return back to a fair contest, in which winning with style is again possible.
thanx for your attention.
best regards
skytrader
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 07:49
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Gday,
All we should do is get behind the contestants in the top ten except for the gooses.
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skytrader
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 07:56
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funny,
rahul also commented the blue comments, (for example at page 10) which did not include any trade with
"good trade +1"
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 08:04
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I totally agree with you. Like I said before he is playing dirty game. Let's see what happen's, when he will realize that I am not cheating. I would like to hear a very good apology! I promise that I won't leave it like this. And I am very surprised about other contestants who are playing along with him!!!
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rahulghosh
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 08:27
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Really. Why don't you mention the fact you sent me an e-mail calling me a "sand nigger"? There are at least a HUNDRED other people who do the SAME exact. In fact, I'd say I'm below the average in terms of comments given to others.
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 09:38
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It is sad to admit but comments spamming became a common practice and I've seen a lot of senseless spam from many of top ten in this and previous monthes. Now it is only two ways, either your are legit and absolutely unpopular or you act like others and your popularity limited only by amounts of spam you manage to send. You cannot blame Rahul as long as everybody do the same and get no penalties at all.
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 09:59
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man, man, how low can a man or a boy go....? with all that pips in oyr pocket, you act so immature.
i never ever have sent you not one single email. why should i be so stupid?
dude,
just apologize, try to convince dukascopy, that you are new to this or cant stand the nerves one needs in such a contest and perhaps the other traders, also me or dukascopy would excuse somehow your behaviour.
but instead of that you continue digging your hole deeper and deeper.
rahul, you made my day. that was by far the cheapest and the lowest joke one could ever make. is this now level 6 in your desinformation campagne?
falsifying email? i am really curious about that kind of evidence.
i dont even know that expression you are using.
if you continue spreaading this plain utter nonsense you might also get legal problems with me. i know that dukascopy distances itself from non sense the traders write in theor blogs or the forum, but i might start a law case AGAINST YOU, becasue
I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT YOU CONTINUE SLANDERING MY PERSON.
here in europe defamation is illegal. stop defaming my reputation.
YOU ARE A LIAR.
I NEVER EMAILED YOU ANYTHING: YOU NEVER RECEIEVED ANYTHING FROM ME THAN THE WARM WORDS YOU HAVE FOUND IN YOUR BLOG.
so, stop this immediately.
is there any rule agianst defamation dukascopy?
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 10:14
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i would like to know from dukascopy, which is the purpose of the code of conduct, if it perhaps (we still do not know the outcome) does not even take any effect in such severe cases where the outcome of the TOP TEN is massievly influenced by such rule breaking behaviour?
if there are no consequences for rahul,
when he insults other competitors with false, not proven accusations, in fact fills up the whole traders blog with his false accusations.
after that starts talking without any kind of respect to traders who say, please stop this.
and last but not least, gives someone who has 1 popularity point less than arturs10 more than 110 comments, all with the same sensless text, in one concentrated action,in one hour, just to influence the poularity ranking, i mean...
does that mean, that all the traders do not have to follow any of the rules of the code of conduct???
please explain that to me. this i really would have difficulties to understand. and to be honest i am not even able to imagine that this could have no consequences.
and i guess i am not the only one. allowing rahul doing so, means that everybody can do this in the future.
this is not the usual circle commenting some of the users do. this is a focussed action to influence the ranking of the top ten.
and to top all this he now starts defaming and slendering me.
what else do i have to explain?
you know the 2 rules of flooding and sensless comments and you have the third parameter of influencing direct competitors IN THE MONEY PLACES!!!
now, please act according to these rules.
thank you.
P.S: multisanti, it is impossible that you for example have seen any senseless comments of me! and i know that other traders do also think like that! i mean what is the sense in doing so.
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Mon 20 Jun, 2011, 18:14
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Where were you hiding all these months skytrader?????? Once you come in top10 lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what scenes you are creating.... When someone wrote about snowshow last month, there was no comment from your end. why now, especially only after raising your position to top10. another popularity stunt????????? Mind you, if you have any issue regarding any trader. please mail to [email protected] instead of bloging all over the place.
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Watson, Mr. Watson
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Post subject: Re: do you know how easy it is to verify that email |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 00:02
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now rahul, you didn't actually received those words from skytrader (but just from a totally different trader)......so you decided to put them in his mouth anyway
Who is more pathetic in this case ?
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 07:39
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What I find sad is that in the early days of this contest, everyone got along and there was a great sense of friendship between the people that traded against each other. It is sad to see it turn so nasty.
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 11:03
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Fraqtal wrote: What I find sad is that in the early days of this contest, everyone got along and there was a great sense of friendship between the people that traded against each other. It is sad to see it turn so nasty. I strongly second you fraqtal. Infact the community was my relaxing place where in contestants were friendly and guiding us about trades. competition was small and in infant stage. now the competition has grown up. just like grown ups the contestants are fighting for silly matters. hope dukascopy moderators will filter any forum messages targeting individual traders.
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 11:25
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i dont get the point of soem peoples opinions in this duscussion?
it is a simple question. what are the rules for?
rahul made this same thing with 2 other traders who can harm his competitors popularity ranking. massive senselss commenting generated only in a few hours. win777 showd up in his blof to also say thank you for receiving 100+ ccomments in one hour.
these actions are focussed directly to influence the ranking.
can somebody be so kind to explain to me which is the difference between self-commenting, which disqualified a guy out of the top ten last month or the month before, because he tried to influence his populartiy rank massively and a guy who cannot improve his own popularity or rank, like rahul with 100 pop points and therefore tries with focussed manipulation of mass commenting to massively influence the rank of competitors in the TOP TEN?
i cannot see any difference. both are ilegit actions which have one purpose, to directly influence the ranking and the placement in the paid places.
i mean even the argument that a lot of traders do this is not legit. commenting action spread all over the contest means accepting a breaking of the rules, but if you like, the others do it perhaos all over the contest from time to time and also spread their comments to get maximum echo back from different traders!
what rahul did YESETRDAY is totally different from that. he posted SEVERAL HUNDRED comments in two or three blogs in a matter of hours to massively influence the top ten rankings and keep his toughest competitors away. in a head to head race this is not only inappropriate, it is simply cheating.
is he really getting away with that, without any intervention from dukascopy while the other guy who did the same, only in his own block, got disqualified?
please explain!!!
and please, the people who again are aimig to attack ONLY my person, like snowing noname, what is your point? is it acceptable that a trader breaks so massively the rules and am i the one who needs to be attacked?
get real. if nothing happens, the rules are really meaningless. i cant imagine that dukascopy will do that. they will at least choose to regulate this with the last points they evaluate manually.
it would be a castarophic signal for the trading communcity if one trader can put himselsf so much about the rules and the other traders and the code of contact and get away with it with NO consequences at all.
that would simply make no sense.
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 12:10
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fraqtal,
i hope you dont adress these words to me???
what is nasty when you care about the rules and severe rule breaking?
or do you mean that the rule breaking and sensless mass commenting is nasty?
well, senseless only in the rule of defintion, because they made no sense to the trade they were postetd to, but they made a A LOT OF SENSE for rahul.
if you did not study the case in detail, here are the facts:
popularity points right now in the ranking:
win007 >>> 90 elena_m >>>> 89 points victor >>>> 88 points arturs10 >>>> 87 peterisp >>> 85
arturs and peterisp are his toughest competitors, therefore rahul first tried to defame them with false accusations and after he got stopped doing so, he gave the traders win007 and Victor, who are directly before his toughest competitors HUNDREDS of comments, well spread. each trade the same sensless comment. all in a matter of hours. in several accounts. very focussed. evidence shows this clearly.
he did not have to comment at elena, because she already has masses of comments due to her very active participation in the community.
well, some might think that is clever others my think that is a brutal breaking of the rules and if this has no consequences the rules are getting totally devalued.
i have no chance to get on place 1 to 3. i am also not related to arturs or peterisp. my personal interests in the top ten of this contest are low.
the reason why i do this, is, that we need to respect the rules. as far as i have understood dukascopy, it is not only about trading it is also about a fair community and what has the above cheating to do with fairness?
and additionally i want to be sure, that if next time me or you or whoever fights for place 1 to 3 or one of the other paid positions have a REAL and FAIR chance according to the RULES to achieve the place we deserve and not the place another trader breaking the rules wants to give us.
is that so difficult to understand?
i guess the dukas team must have contacted him because we at lest dont read anymore of his respectless rhetoric or his false accusations degrading defaming and degrading other traders.
this is good if they reacted and did so. it helped to regain a more constructive atmosphere.
but, if dukscopy did so, that it is surely not enough regarding the actions reported above because the above described actions are totally unacceptable and hurt the code of conduct MASSIVELY.
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rahulghosh
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 14:13
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skytrader wrote: fraqtal,
i hope you dont adress these words to me???
what is nasty when you care about the rules and severe rule breaking?
or do you mean that the rule breaking and sensless mass commenting is nasty?
well, senseless only in the rule of defintion, because they made no sense to the trade they were postetd to, but they made a A LOT OF SENSE for rahul.
if you did not study the case in detail, here are the facts:
popularity points right now in the ranking:
win007 >>> 90 elena_m >>>> 89 points victor >>>> 88 points arturs10 >>>> 87 peterisp >>> 85
arturs and peterisp are his toughest competitors, therefore rahul first tried to defame them with false accusations and after he got stopped doing so, he gave the traders win007 and Victor, who are directly before his toughest competitors HUNDREDS of comments, well spread. each trade the same sensless comment. all in a matter of hours. in several accounts. very focussed. evidence shows this clearly.
he did not have to comment at elena, because she already has masses of comments due to her very active participation in the community.
well, some might think that is clever others my think that is a brutal breaking of the rules and if this has no consequences the rules are getting totally devalued.
i have no chance to get on place 1 to 3. i am also not related to arturs or peterisp. my personal interests in the top ten of this contest are low.
the reason why i do this, is, that we need to respect the rules. as far as i have understood dukascopy, it is not only about trading it is also about a fair community and what has the above cheating to do with fairness?
and additionally i want to be sure, that if next time me or you or whoever fights for place 1 to 3 or one of the other paid positions have a REAL and FAIR chance according to the RULES to achieve the place we deserve and not the place another trader breaking the rules wants to give us.
is that so difficult to understand?
i guess the dukas team must have contacted him because we at lest dont read anymore of his respectless rhetoric or his false accusations degrading defaming and degrading other traders.
this is good if they reacted and did so. it helped to regain a more constructive atmosphere.
but, if dukscopy did so, that it is surely not enough regarding the actions reported above because the above described actions are totally unacceptable and hurt the code of conduct MASSIVELY. ya you have a lot of personal interest in this contest. you don't want a "sand nigger" to be number one.
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 14:28
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just one thing,I'am not noname(my english is not good like that)
If I'm something to tell you,I will tell you with my Nick
I'm not the only one who is boring to lesson you.
But maybe he was you who trying to influence dukascopy just before the evaluation last month. You guess what?I don't care. I wil try to get a price in the summer and after you can be the trader of year or what you want.I will be far from this forum and this contest.
Good luck
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 16:00
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rahulghosh wrote: skytrader wrote: fraqtal,
i hope you dont adress these words to me???
what is nasty when you care about the rules and severe rule breaking?
or do you mean that the rule breaking and sensless mass commenting is nasty?
well, senseless only in the rule of defintion, because they made no sense to the trade they were postetd to, but they made a A LOT OF SENSE for rahul.
if you did not study the case in detail, here are the facts:
popularity points right now in the ranking:
win007 >>> 90 elena_m >>>> 89 points victor >>>> 88 points arturs10 >>>> 87 peterisp >>> 85
arturs and peterisp are his toughest competitors, therefore rahul first tried to defame them with false accusations and after he got stopped doing so, he gave the traders win007 and Victor, who are directly before his toughest competitors HUNDREDS of comments, well spread. each trade the same sensless comment. all in a matter of hours. in several accounts. very focussed. evidence shows this clearly.
he did not have to comment at elena, because she already has masses of comments due to her very active participation in the community.
well, some might think that is clever others my think that is a brutal breaking of the rules and if this has no consequences the rules are getting totally devalued.
i have no chance to get on place 1 to 3. i am also not related to arturs or peterisp. my personal interests in the top ten of this contest are low.
the reason why i do this, is, that we need to respect the rules. as far as i have understood dukascopy, it is not only about trading it is also about a fair community and what has the above cheating to do with fairness?
and additionally i want to be sure, that if next time me or you or whoever fights for place 1 to 3 or one of the other paid positions have a REAL and FAIR chance according to the RULES to achieve the place we deserve and not the place another trader breaking the rules wants to give us.
is that so difficult to understand?
i guess the dukas team must have contacted him because we at lest dont read anymore of his respectless rhetoric or his false accusations degrading defaming and degrading other traders.
this is good if they reacted and did so. it helped to regain a more constructive atmosphere.
but, if dukscopy did so, that it is surely not enough regarding the actions reported above because the above described actions are totally unacceptable and hurt the code of conduct MASSIVELY. ya you have a lot of personal interest in this contest. you don't want a "sand nigger" to be number one. And you rahulkghosh stop to act like a child even if you have only 20 years. Nobody buy your email story about racism stufffrom sky I asked you a sample question like what's leverage u use in live account,u didn't answer. I suspect you are not the success trader like you claimed in your blog.I hope to see you next month to prove it was not only lucky. It's my last coment in this thread.I'm have nothing personnal against nobody but sometimes it's realy too much.STOP TO FLOODING YOUR BLOG MAN
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 16:25
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Guest wrote: rahulghosh wrote: skytrader wrote: fraqtal,
i hope you dont adress these words to me???
what is nasty when you care about the rules and severe rule breaking?
or do you mean that the rule breaking and sensless mass commenting is nasty?
well, senseless only in the rule of defintion, because they made no sense to the trade they were postetd to, but they made a A LOT OF SENSE for rahul.
if you did not study the case in detail, here are the facts:
popularity points right now in the ranking:
win007 >>> 90 elena_m >>>> 89 points victor >>>> 88 points arturs10 >>>> 87 peterisp >>> 85
arturs and peterisp are his toughest competitors, therefore rahul first tried to defame them with false accusations and after he got stopped doing so, he gave the traders win007 and Victor, who are directly before his toughest competitors HUNDREDS of comments, well spread. each trade the same sensless comment. all in a matter of hours. in several accounts. very focussed. evidence shows this clearly.
he did not have to comment at elena, because she already has masses of comments due to her very active participation in the community.
well, some might think that is clever others my think that is a brutal breaking of the rules and if this has no consequences the rules are getting totally devalued.
i have no chance to get on place 1 to 3. i am also not related to arturs or peterisp. my personal interests in the top ten of this contest are low.
the reason why i do this, is, that we need to respect the rules. as far as i have understood dukascopy, it is not only about trading it is also about a fair community and what has the above cheating to do with fairness?
and additionally i want to be sure, that if next time me or you or whoever fights for place 1 to 3 or one of the other paid positions have a REAL and FAIR chance according to the RULES to achieve the place we deserve and not the place another trader breaking the rules wants to give us.
is that so difficult to understand?
i guess the dukas team must have contacted him because we at lest dont read anymore of his respectless rhetoric or his false accusations degrading defaming and degrading other traders.
this is good if they reacted and did so. it helped to regain a more constructive atmosphere.
but, if dukscopy did so, that it is surely not enough regarding the actions reported above because the above described actions are totally unacceptable and hurt the code of conduct MASSIVELY. ya you have a lot of personal interest in this contest. you don't want a "sand nigger" to be number one. And you rahulkghosh stop to act like a child even if you have only 20 years. Nobody buy your email story about racism stufffrom sky I asked you a sample question like what's leverage u use in live account,u didn't answer. I suspect you are not the success trader like you claimed in your blog.I hope to see you next month to prove it was not only lucky. It's my last coment in this thread.I'm have nothing personnal against nobody but sometimes it's realy too much.STOP TO FLOODING YOUR BLOG MAN Suspect what you want. But my results make it pretty clear. By the way, I never recall seeing a comment like that. I get flooded with comments so I probably missed it. And the leverage answer is 10. Let me get this, you're probably some unprofitable jealous jerk, right? Hence why you have to type as anonymous.
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: 2nd severe rule violation of user rahulkghosh |
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2011, 17:05
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@rahul...
i see, you understood that you cant go on to slender and defame other people with not existing emails and now you try to spread your desinformation in a different way.
now you dont lie that i called you this strange expression which does not even make any sense, now you call yourself whatever this is.
but in one thing you are right:
i dont want a cheater to win this contest, because this contest deserves a fair trader as a winner. one who likes to help the traders who are new to this biz.
one whose arrogance does not grow with every single place he climbs in the ranking.
that is what this communcity deserves. and surely the contest deserves a legit winner with style who does not try to slender and defame and accuse other people with lies and tries to influence the ranking so obviously like you did.
even a firstgrader was able to see and understand what you did and why you did it.
the contest of course deserves a winner who deserves to win.
after your behaviour, you dont deserve to win. lets see if you really get away without any consequences although you have broken the code of conduct so massively.
if traders cheat so obviously and still would be able to win this thing, the code of conduct would make no sense and i am pretty sure, that dukascopy defined this code of conduct TO MAKE SENSE.
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