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SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
FAIR TRADER
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Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011, 11:53
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Dear regards, Dukascopy Let me to tell what is in my mind about this contest. 1. Can u allow us to open 2 pending orders for the same pair ??? my trading system need a condition like what I mention above (for example, if EU touch 1.342, I will short it. If it touch 1.348, I will short it). If one of them executed, another one will be removed automatically. 2. About popularity, I think it make no sense now. No one use it to share our trading technique, we all use it to gain popularity by send spam to others participant. See skytrader, Milani and Vietcurrency, they just spam us, not share with us. So I have a suggestion for solve this problem.Hide the username when a contestant comments to another contestant's blog. I think this is the main problem. We all come to other contestant's blog, give them +1, and they will do the same. So if we don't know the person who comments, spamming won't be happen. So, why we don't HIDE OUR USERNAME WHEN COMMENT TO OTHER CONTESTANT'S BLOG... 3. I see that some contestant blow up their account. Why don't you punish them ??? I have this idea, if a CONTESTANT HAVE ENDING BALANCE BELOW 50K, THEY MAY NOT PARTICIPATE FOR NEXT MONTH CONTEST. It's fair to anticipate "GAMBLING" and "BAD RISK MANAGEMENT"... Sorry, I can't english very good.
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011, 14:01
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FAIR TRADER wrote: See skytrader, Milani and Vietcurrency, they just spam us, not share with us. . in my case you are kidding. i always comment with real opinions. often i also explain the rules or give advice. nice try. but even a firstgrader can prove that i do not spam anybody like others do. and i am pretty sure, that my total number of left comments is far below of that of the circle comment spammers posting in every trade stuff like"gl4you+1" for example which one of the greatets SPAMMERS preferably does. ME, I DO NOT DO THIS KIND OF CIRCLE COMMENTING VIA COPY/PASTE THIS IS SIMPLY UNTRUE.regarding your other idea, well, sounds good in the first moment to not show the name who is commenting, but this would also allow uncontroled mass commenting by numerous fake users i think. you wont see who comments and like this would have NO CONTROL OR OVERVIEW! i guess such an idea can only come from someone who is circle commenting and wants to do this unobserved. again, nice try. by the way: additonally the people who in fact practice these MEANINGLESS circle commenting could agree on PMs to do so. so in fact this is not at all a good idea to implement.
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Pistek
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011, 14:43
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I have some another sugestions for dukascopy to improve this contest:
1 - Because we are entering the next year, main criteria for trader of the year have to be consistency. Without that Dukascopy is forcing us to gambling (and cheating)
2 - Popularity rate have to be based on readers from outside of contest only.
3 - No expert rating because this rating from dukascopy have no sense in comparison with real trading and realistic trading skylls. This rating could be like prize for very good technical explanation of traders trades but in this moment to force traders to trade like amateurs and against profis trading techniques, haven't any sense. Or to find some really good trader to judge what is good and what is bad trading (for expert ratings). In this moment experts from dukascopy havent enough knowledge regard how really top trader haved to trade.
4 - Not allow cheating like it is allowed now! It is crucial paramether if Dukascopy have interest for real traders, real performance, real innvestors and realistic contest. If not no one real trader will trade here after few next months any more - I think. They will go to the other contests and here will trade just cheaters, bluffers and bad traders like Skytrader!
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FAIR TRADER
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011, 15:33
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skytrader wrote: FAIR TRADER wrote: See skytrader, Milani and Vietcurrency, they just spam us, not share with us. . in my case you are kidding. i always comment with real opinions. often i also explain the rules or give advice. nice try. but even a firstgrader can prove that i do not spam anybody like others do. and i am pretty sure, that my total number of left comments is far below of that of the circle comment spammers posting in every trade stuff like"gl4you+1" for example which one of the greatets SPAMMERS preferably does. ME, I DO NOT DO THIS KIND OF CIRCLE COMMENTING VIA COPY/PASTE THIS IS SIMPLY UNTRUE.regarding your other idea, well, sounds good in the first moment to not show the name who is commenting, but this would also allow uncontroled mass commenting by numerous fake users i think. you wont see who comments and like this would have NO CONTROL OR OVERVIEW! i guess such an idea can only come from someone who is circle commenting and wants to do this unobserved. again, nice try. by the way: additonally the people who in fact practice these MEANINGLESS circle commenting could agree on PMs to do so. so in fact this is not at all a good idea to implement.You're not spammer ?? Are you kidding ???.. See your blog, more than 50 % of the comments on your blog sounds like that "Very good +1, good luck etc ". Dukascopy give us "delete comment tools", so why you don't delete it. You wanna get Pop point, not to share. After someone come to your blog with "good luck +1", you come to his/her blog, and lie with talk about market (I know, you don't wanna talk about market, you just wanna say "hi guest, come to my blog again"). And I know, sometimes U use "+1" when you comment. It's funny man. You spam others contestant with unique method... -------not a spammer. = he/she delete "junk comment" and talk with someone who wanna talk about market" -------
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011, 17:02
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FAIR TRADER wrote: -------not a spammer. = he/she delete "junk comment" and talk with someone who wanna talk about market" ------- oh well, really? so why dont you just tell us your real nickname?
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Pistek
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Mon 28 Nov, 2011, 17:21
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I'm one of great spammers Skytrader mentioned before. Reason for my good wishes to other traders is to wish them good luck because not all of them are cheaters like he is - but also popularity of course. Till now I trade onest and fair any my results between many cheaters are without cheating and without expert points - just real fair trading! I'm not quilt why calculation of points is such like it is! No one like spamm, cheaters and wrong expert rating calculations!
If I would have something with organisation of this contest it would be many changes. Example: - Without popularity points but just expert rating conting on realistic comentars and analysis inside blogs. - Without expert rating regard trading techniques if "expert who do that" isn't reachest trader in the world! - To disvalify for a lifetime cheaters and manipulators like Skytrader is! It is shame that such people are here and how they manipulate with dukascopy and others. It's shame that such person receive any prize in the past! Only one fair prize for him is - discvalification for a lifetime!
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Diogenes
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011, 00:21
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No one can expect Dukascopy to completely take off popularity scores out of their evaluation. Dukascopy is not giving out money for the sake of charity and for the fun of traders in this contest. This contest is actually an advertisement so each unique IP means unique potential customers for Dukascopy. It's kind of an word of mouth marketing. It's a pretty clever technique because instead of spending money on advertisement, contest participants do the job for them. As traders participating in this contest we should respect their incentives too. But I agree with other people in the community. If this is a contest about trading than it should be about trading. That's why I believe that evaluation percentage of popularity scores should be lowered from 25% to at least 15% or 20%. Even that little change will be enough for a better evaluation of the real winners in my opinion.
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Guest
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011, 08:56
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What would a good trader get through his/her trading- money or friends? 
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Pistek
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011, 11:18
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I would to see who of these who like cheaters and bluffers would give money to them to trade for them?!? Dukascopy have to care even for investors not only for gamblers and cheaters. So expert rating is very sensitive case. Trader with highest expert score have to trade profitable every month for a years!!!! Who would invest to skytrader? I think No One serious investor! Expert rating have to be from real experts! It's understandable that such experts are rare but without them no one need expert rating on basis to blowing accounts of investors (or traders). Dukascopy have tu support serious and goood traders and serious and big investors not just cheaters and bluffers!
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Pistek
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Tue 29 Nov, 2011, 21:58
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DUKASCOPY!!!! Thank You for your Infor regard CHEATING! Kudos! Now I have hope and will to trade serious! Really GREAT reaction. Sorry for my past comments!
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Pistek:
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Wed 30 Nov, 2011, 11:35
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Suggestions for fair, interesting and really good rating in the future:
1- Consistent profitability and safe trading 40% 2- Balance (how muc money trader earn) 30% 3- Pips score 10% 4- Dukascopy score based on quaility of blog only 20% 5- Discvalification for a lifetime for any kind of cheating!
This way contest would become much more interesting and fair!
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Wed 30 Nov, 2011, 11:37
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Pistek wrote: "To disvalify for a lifetime cheaters and manipulators like Skytrader is! It is shame that such people are here and how they manipulate with dukascopy and others. It's shame that such person receive any prize in the past! Only one fair prize for him is - discvalification for a lifetime!"
"Expert rating have to be from real experts! It's understandable that such experts are rare but without them no one need expert rating"
"Dukascopy have tu support serious and goood traders and serious and big investors not just cheaters and bluffers!"
serious traders like pistek? well, it appears that "pistek" obviously has no problems with presenting intellectual limitations to the public. that kind of limitations that let the user "pistek" break almost every existing community rule while also LYING VICIOUSLY about other traders and DEFAMING them with the stuff "pistek" does, but not them. with extending the VICIOUS CAMPAIGN now also against DUKASCOPY "pistek" shows that he/she DO NOT understand that the DUKASCOPY EVALUATION points represent a preferred way of trading which gets automatically calculated by the platform system > by a formula. an algorithm. there are no experts which "pistek" blames behind that column while the contest runs. every word "pistek" writes uncovers a very narrow minded person. the malicious behaviour of "pistek" is sick to the bone. pistek, spams the PM BOXES of the DUKASCOPY community with ADVERTISING EMAILs like this one: "some info abau Skytrader, chiter on some other contest: https://XXXXX.YYY.com/shoXXXXXXX862-NEW- ... XXXX329668 NEW: The Contest "AXXXXX YYYYYY XXXXXXXn" forum.XXXXXXX.om Keeping the glorious tradition of XXXXX Forum contests up, we invite you to take part in the XXXXXX XXXXXX! Perfect your strategy, analyze the fatal errors and draw the results of the year. Use your renewed vigour to take a lead and reach the profitable finish straight! The contest is held with t..."i have X-ED the parts of the domains and that other CRAP-CONTESTs name to avoid what "pistek" did, when he/she advertised this NEWBIE contest in our professional environment of DUKASCOPY FC and with HUNDREDS of private messages inside the DFC. but also without the domain name visible, WHICH IN FACT was VISIBLE in the ADVERTISING emails of pistek, one clearly can identify the ADVERTISING MESSAGE! this is stricly forbidden inside the DUKASCOPY community!BESIDES THAT: OF COURSE I NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THAT OTHER CRAP-CONTEST LIKE "pistek" PROMOTES IN HIS/HER CAMPAIGN AND OF COURSE I AM NOT CHEATING!!!!but the advertising of other contests inside DFC and the LIES ABOUT ME are not the only missbehaviour of "pistek", there is more! pistek generates his/her popularity rankings out of HOT THIN AIR. like the VICIOUS DEFAMATION CAMPAIGNs. "pistek" did this since his/her first appearance in this contest, ending up most of the times in the TOP 5 of popularity ranking, ONLY WITH MEANINGLESS CIRCLE- and ECHO-COMMENTING. "pisteks" numbers for the unique IP visitors always were a JOKE. neverthelss "pistek" always had high VOTING and COMMENT numbers. here is why: "pistek" spams the place with meaningless COMMENTS >>> THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of the same repition.... JUST to get back what i call "echo-comments". this is the only way "pistek" participates in this community besides the ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS and his/her pathetic MEANINGLESS INSULTS and DEFAMATION CAMPAIGN against my person. here the PLAIN AND TRUE EVIDENCE... the UNCUT TOTAL COMMENT ACTIVITY by user "pistek",...THIS IS ONLY NOVEMBER!!!, without even all the activities of yesterday and completely missing todays same activities:
120 pages FULL OF MEANINGLESS SPAM COMMENTING. totaling at least around 1400 meaningless COMMENTS only in the first 28 days of NOVEMBER. it is always the same stuff. not one constructive or focused word to any trade or whatsoever. https://www.2shared.com/document/vCpABsV ... ments.htmlOCTOBER, total comment activity by user "pistek", totaling 81 pages of SPAM COMMENTS, around 900 comments:https://www.2shared.com/document/t8SPZjJ ... ments.htmlshall i go further back? i guess, i would find a total of at LEAST 10.000 of the same SPAM COMMENTS, all copy/pasted by "pistek". well... DUKASCOPY can easily check this... and see, that "pistek" certainly and obviously BREAKS THIS CONTESTS RULES SYSTEMATICALLY and ONLY PROVIDES THAT KIND OF COMMENT SPAM nobody needs and this community was not made for... unbelievable, that such a SPAMMER and LIAR like "pistek" dares to TALK BAD about other HONEST PEOPLE AND THEIR HONEST WORK. SHAME ON YOU, "pistek"! before pistek started all these LIES and DEFAMATION regarding my person i never said anything against "pistek". nothing. not one word. pistek started all that crap and defamation campaign against my person after i simply blocked pistek out of my blog. there was nothing more what i did. i did not even adress any words to pistek. i just blocked this user. and then this user pistek started this vicious campaign against my person and meanwhile also against DUKASCOPY and the contest. "pisteks" behaviour is troll behaviour at its best and this by the way is also forbidden according to the rules and the code of conduct. kind regards skytrader
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skytrader
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Wed 30 Nov, 2011, 12:21
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now, after seeing the EVIDENCE in case of the COMMENTING behaviour of user "pistek" and also the fact, that he/she is lying and defaming other traders, lets have a look to the code of conduct. https://www.dukascopy.com/fxcomm/?page=codeOfConductespecially, because "pistek" excuses his/her behaviour with the attitude "to wish luck to other contestants", which is nothing but a bad joke. now traders, judge yourself if the way "pistek" communicates and comments is adequate according to the following rules of the code of conduct, here a little reminder... The "DON'Ts" of Dukascopy Forex Community (primarily, comments)SpamSending the unsolicited bulk messages is strictly forbidden. This includes not only the advertising of the products or services of the 3rd parties .... FloodPosting lots of similar comments with any purpose or sending messages is strictly forbidden. Senseless commentsPublication of senseless comments (such as "good day" , "nice trade", "good luck!" ) that are only intended to promote participant's profile (by inflating the commentaries rating) is not tolerated. Such comments will be deleted. In some cases, the violation might result into blocking the user's possibility to post comments. TrollingWhat is trolling? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Intern et) The "trolls" will be disqualified from the contest and/or blocked temporarily or permanentlly. regarding these rules and the EVIDENCE aand PROOF about "pisteks" activities, i am really wondering about the meaning of this statement of DUKASCOPY, regarding the CODE OF CONDUCT: "Please take these rules seriously. Dukascopy Bank previses participants from trying to look for loopholes or trying to lawyer a way around the guidelines. Sticking to the rules is in the interest of the contestant himself, as any violations might result into deleting the content, disqualifying contestant from the competition or even a permanent ban on the resource."
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dhayatsa
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Thu 01 Dec, 2011, 03:06
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FAIR TRADER wrote: I see that some contestant blow up their account. Why don't you punish them ??? I have this idea, if a CONTESTANT HAVE ENDING BALANCE BELOW 50K, THEY MAY NOT PARTICIPATE FOR NEXT MONTH CONTEST. It's fair to anticipate "GAMBLING" and "BAD RISK MANAGEMENT"...
I agree with this.. Why dukascopy don't put it to this contest's rules ???
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citikot
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Post subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS CONTEST |
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Posted: Thu 01 Dec, 2011, 09:10
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Friends, it's not Your f...g business how I will manage my account. Punish yourself by hitting at the wall. Care of Your account not others.
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dhayatsa
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Posted: Thu 01 Dec, 2011, 11:45
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citikot wrote: Friends, it's not Your f...g business how I will manage my account. Punish yourself by hitting at the wall. Care of Your account not others. Hahaha, your comment sounds funny. I feel like Skytrader now, I've haters... hahaha....
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