Contest Support Team,

I have one suggestion about Strategy Contest. Most of time, I have observed that too many people copy someone strategy and then run it in contest. It is a good practice that when we publish the strategy then get bonus point, because due to this, for any profitable strategy, we get to know the method of trade in a good strategy.

Now big question is, we fight with our own strategy in contest, because of copying strategy is allowed in contest, however only if we report to you that someone is running a copied strategy then you will deduct popularity point.

As per my view, we spend lots of time to understand market behavior and then code it on Java. And in the end, some one find that strategy is profitable and join strategy contest with copied strategy, and even they don't know how to code. And in the end, become in top 10 list. Now conclusion is, our all effort have no result at all. So my suggestion is to prohibit copying strategy is contest, and once any one copy any strategy and run it on contest platform, and you find that, in this case, you will remove all points gained by that strategy and ban that participants for that month.

It will have a fair play, and those who makes strategy by reading charts and indicator behavior by spending hours and hours, will feel positively and will have more enthusiasm to make more strategy.

I invite all strategy builder to provide your view on the above mentioned points.

Thanks,

"As per my view, we spend lots of time to understand market behavior and then code it on Java. And in the end, some one find that strategy is profitable and join strategy contest with copied strategy, and even they don't know how to code. And in the end, become in top 10 list. Now conclusion is, our all effort have no result at all."


It looks like you need to spend more time to understand market behavior because you can not be in the top10 list with your own strategy and to be listed in top 10 then you need dukascopy eliminates opponents that are smart enough to beat you with a copied strategy ....May be you should learn from copier as well as copier may learn from your coding skills and I guess this is why this contest is interesting ...You could improve yourself like this ,at that is the way life is ..If you can only looks to others with jealousy instead of improving yourself then you will lose here and in the Game Of Life .

Ideally you would like everyone to create their own strategy, the reason why the rules are setup this way is because it's too complicated for dukascopy to identify all the guys copying the strategy, the idea is for them to only check the top 10 which make things much easier for them.

I am fine with it, the only issue currently is that as shown by the ranking of last month some of the guys coping strategies are keeping their dukascopy points so rules are not being applied.

Alexandreb,

It is not about being jealous. A contest is all about your skills and knowledge. Of course, you can learn from others to code, and then play with it. No one will ask you any question. However, I have seen, 4 times that person who does not know anything about coding, become 1st. And the way you said that it looks like, you are encouraging people to copy strategy. Well, keep it up.

@ Pipcity,
Exactly, my point is same. Last month, few guys played with copied strategy and points were not get deducted. So I thought to add a suggestion on forum. Now it's on Dukascopy team, who decides how to proceed further. Even I have no problem with those who copy anyone strategy, but their points should be deducted.

They can learn from it, as it is still public, and then write and use their own strategy. The problem that drishti sees is that a bunch of people simply take other people strategies, even without editing it. That has nothing to do with "If you can only looks to others with jealousy", like you said, but with fair play within a programmers contest.

Point deduction rule for copying strategy is good rule. But I agree with Alexandreb that it is about being jealous.. One can test his/her strategy in the contest. If your strategy works your way, go for live. Winners do not complain.

I like the point deduction rule, and personally feel it's enough of a disadvantage to a copier. I wouldn't object to Drishti's policy of zero points, however I think that would reduce the number of participants too much. Also I agree there is a lot of merit to choosing the correct strategy to use during any given month.

However I'm not so keen on the implementation of the rule. If it takes till the end of the month to resolve then that's poor because it takes the fun out of a competition when you see people on top10 that have no right to be there (or at least should be lower on top10).

P.S. I've submitted one copyright claim last Thursday, have yet to receive a reply.

Dukascopy can make the rules as it want. What Dukascopy NOT can do, is let the current rules are not met. You can't copy a full strategy and get bonus points (paragraph 4.d RCR), The back-testing result has to be adequate and similar to the live trading results (paragraph 3.d PR). If you can not make a strategy that meets the rules, you should not participate. With respect to the contestants who talk about jealousy, I wonder if they are old enough to participate in this contest.

As Antilochus, I also sent a complaint for breach of the rule (3.d PR) by contestant blackjack in february and january, and I'm waiting Dukascopy behavior in this regard.

" to make contest better "

It's clearly a tribute to mediocrity . Do you really that Dukascopy want to reward underperforming strategy just because someone write it ? If you don't want your strategy copied just do not publish it (and do not ask for bonus publication points ) or just copy the winner parameters on your strategy and win the game by yourself !

There are so much complain cry about copier winners , it only shows that the parameters are more importants than the code itself.
Just think about it and you will become stronger .


I understand if someone use a copyright claim if he 's ranked 2nd or 10th and that he is beaten by someone that copied his strategy .That is Fair !

Ok, buddy!

You win and we loose. I understand that you are smart enough to choose any strategy to copy it. Neither I want to explain why strategy publishing provides point to a participants. I do not want to make a battle ground here. In earlier thread, what I am thinking right, told it. Now final decision is on "Big Boss (Dukascopy Contest Team)", who is keeping an Eagle eyes of all thread message. I think, they will take the best decision in everyone's favor.

It is very unlikely that Dukascopy will listen to the genuine programmers request. Disallowing strategy copying is not business friendly for the company.

P.S. By authorizing the publication of the strategy script on Dukascopy's website, the Participants are not deemed to waive any of their copyrights or other intellectual property rights related to the strategy.

They will take the best decision in their own favour.

My strategy is copied by ogof. Both are in top 10.

I don't have issues if ogof wins or not.

My strategy was pending, so I've just restarted it. Let's see how it works out.

My strategy is as it is copied by Rank # 2 ogof

How to report this copycat?

You can mail it to " [email protected] " and and provide your original strategy to them also.

Read below rules : Participants who produced copies or reproductions of a strategy are not eligible for bonus popularity points. The strategy is considered copied if a substantial part of the algorithm (at least 90% of the script) resembles another strategy. The author of the strategy and other participants may complete copyright claims by providing information about code snippets that have been copied and a reference to the original strategy.

After reviewing copyright claims which are submitted during a month, Dukascopy may remove the bonus points from the participant if the copyright claim revealed that the strategy has been copied.

Thankyou drishti , I've done the needful.

Good luck