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 Post subject: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011, 10:39 
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As of October we are starting to disqualify participants who use "team tactics" in order to get an advantage over other participants. As these violations became very widely used, we consider that it might negatively affect the reputation of the contest. The Fair Play principle and the respect to the opponents are very essential foundations for the community of strategy developers. Please note that Dukacopy bank can discontinue the JForex Contest if the participants will not respect the principles of Fair Play. In all cases the participants must refrain from any dishonest and unfair conduct.

The rule 8 of the JForex Strategy Contest will be used in order to exclude the participant from the contest:

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8. Among other, multiple registrations under the same or different IP addresses and names, and/or use of proxy servers may result in Participant's disqualification


In the following weeks Dukascopy might adjust the Contest rules in order to explain the fair rules principles to the community.


The following users have been alreay disqualified: AbdulQadeer, ColDogar, Fjabeen, Hrdogar, Dogar, Sohaib, sitaradogar, Bluedragon, Avec, Forexinvestimentos, thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13 and Imiimi.

The following users have been warned: LinuxFX

If you are aware about any other misconduct, please send an email to [email protected].


Fair Play rules:

Participants acknowledge and agree to make efforts to respect the principles of Fair Play. Participants must refrain from any dishonest and unfair conduct even if these activities are not fully described within the framework of the Contest rules.

Such activities include, but are not limited to:
- Registration of persons that are indirectly related to other Participant
- Various team tactics that include consolidation of Participants into a group with a purpose to get a statistical advantage on one of the accounts
- Trading in opposite directions within one or more accounts
- Spamming in private messages and comments
- Any kind of manipulations with popularity points and other statistics
- Other activities used to get unfair advantage over other Participants


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011, 18:24 

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Dear Dukascopy,

I look through my lawyers the Rules and not conflict in the rules if the participants know each other......

1. So if the participant's unique INDIVIDUAL PERSON and unique ip address registered not against the rules if know each other participant's.

2. The strategy contest rules also does not prohibit at moment: participants whom and how often they comment's

Please check off those of all the participants, thanks!

p.s.: If these facts are not compatible with the principles of Dukascopy, need to write NEW RULES with accurate description

Regards okina13

+p.s.: I do not understand why the popularity of a competing category scored... my opinion, the best strategy to win this strategy contest, WITHOUT popularity hocus-pocus.... yeah the importance of marketing


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011, 18:31 
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Hi Okina,

You may have missed the following paragraph:

Other Rules
Dukascopy reserves the right to change the Contest rules, requirements and awards without prior notice and at any time at its sole discretion.

We are also planning to a add the following section to the rules!

Participants acknowledge and agree to make efforts to respect the principles of Fair Play. Participants must refrain from any dishonest and unfair conduct even if these activities are not fully described within the framework of the Contest rules.

Such activities include, but are not limited to:

- Registration of persons that are indirectly related to other Participant
- Various team tactics that include consolidation of Participants into a group with a purpose to get a statistical advantage on one of the accounts
- Trading in opposite directions within one or more accounts
- Spamming in private messages and comments
- Any kind of manipulations with popularity points and other statistics
- Other activities used to get unfair advantage over other Participants


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011, 21:13 

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Dear Dukascopy support,

no it's not escaped my attention, yes it is indisputable that law ....... and I am very pleased that the rules planned be clarified!

However, the participants have registered for this month (November) of the previous rules were signed, so the new rules will only be valid for registering the next month ACCORDING TO LAW!

Disqualified of the accounts referring to the new rules UNLAWFUL..... legitimate only if the current rules breach!

E.G. many participants will be Disqualified because used "i like you, please like me"!!!!!!!!

P.S.: the proposed Fair Play rules, a few hours ago, they were nowhere to be.... Interestingly, the support it can write a locked post

Regards okina13


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011, 23:14 

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Dear Dukascopy support,

I agree okina13 and I ask the EXACT REASON why disqualified me????

Please EXACT REASON not blablabla eg. "multiple registration" because this is not true!!!

Without the exact reason, please delete my disqualifation.

I "raced" to the EXISTING RULES and disqualified me!!

A deficiency in the existing rules, disqualified totally unlawful because I adhered to all VALID RULES!

Greetings Kelvinmaster


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 00:11 

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Contest Support wrote:
Hi Okina,

You may have missed the following paragraph:

Other Rules
Dukascopy reserves the right to change the Contest rules, requirements and awards without prior notice and at any time at its sole discretion.

We are also planning to a add the following section to the rules!


Dear supportman,

I think your answer is will not praise from Dukascopy.......

If you are a lawyer you could say that, however as a trader you wouldn't make a joke about this because in the contract for a live account it is written almost the same thing regarding your trades. Do you want to become a lawyer or do you want a trustful broker who respects its own rules?

Otherwise a beginner lawyer knows:
the planned changes in the rules can not be applied retroactively

ie, the new rules only apply to the new registration will be ONLY.....


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 04:53 

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Dukascopy clearly mentioned about your activities on Subject of post itself "Team tactics".

U and your team largely participate in the "popularity Manipulation"

Explain Okina & Kelvinmaster how to get more votes and less comments for trades. see the other participants profile only less votes and more comments.,

And also see who are all gave the comments for that trades, for each of ur trades only few persons (your Team mates) only gave the comments and votes.,

Why that persons not give comments to other participants? Respect others comments and votes.

Dont do these unwanted activities to win the competition.


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 05:01 

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okina13 wrote:
Dear Dukascopy support,

no it's not escaped my attention, yes it is indisputable that law ....... and I am very pleased that the rules planned be clarified!

However, the participants have registered for this month (November) of the previous rules were signed, so the new rules will only be valid for registering the next month ACCORDING TO LAW!

Disqualified of the accounts referring to the new rules UNLAWFUL..... legitimate only if the current rules breach!

E.G. many participants will be Disqualified because used "i like you, please like me"!!!!!!!!

P.S.: the proposed Fair Play rules, a few hours ago, they were nowhere to be.... Interestingly, the support it can write a locked post

Regards okina13


Why that persons are do these things "i like you, please like me"!!!!!!!! because of team activities. Like your team okina.

i want say to all the participants "Pls don't follow and encourage this type of team actives". Don't be fool other participants.


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 05:06 

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Kelvinmaster wrote:
Dear Dukascopy support,

I agree okina13 and I ask the EXACT REASON why disqualified me????

Please EXACT REASON not blablabla eg. "multiple registration" because this is not true!!!

Without the exact reason, please delete my disqualifation.

I "raced" to the EXISTING RULES and disqualified me!!

A deficiency in the existing rules, disqualified totally unlawful because I adhered to all VALID RULES!

Greetings Kelvinmaster


Simple Why u Disqualified by dukascopy? Popularity Manipulation.


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 10:14 

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Contest Support wrote:
Hi Okina,

You may have missed the following paragraph:

Other Rules
Dukascopy reserves the right to change the Contest rules, requirements and awards without prior notice and at any time at its sole discretion.

We are also planning to a add the following section to the rules!


My dear support friend,

your answer's wrong, I think you are not the counsel of Dukascopy...

The 'keyword' to the PLANNED.... also currently NOT VALID!

If you are a lawyer you could say that, however as a trader you wouldn't make a joke about this because in the contract for a live account it is written almost the same thing regarding your trades. Do you want to become a lawyer or do you want a trustful broker who respects its own rules?

Otherwise a beginner lawyer knows:
the planned changes in the rules can not be applied retroactively

PLEASE CHECK IT!

I ask the specific reason: why disqualified me?

Please FACTS ONLY, no comment, thanks!

Imiimi


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 14:53 

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Imiimi wrote:
Contest Support wrote:
Hi Okina,

You may have missed the following paragraph:

Other Rules
Dukascopy reserves the right to change the Contest rules, requirements and awards without prior notice and at any time at its sole discretion.

We are also planning to a add the following section to the rules!


My dear support friend,

your answer's wrong, I think you are not the counsel of Dukascopy...

The 'keyword' to the PLANNED.... also currently NOT VALID!

If you are a lawyer you could say that, however as a trader you wouldn't make a joke about this because in the contract for a live account it is written almost the same thing regarding your trades. Do you want to become a lawyer or do you want a trustful broker who respects its own rules?

Otherwise a beginner lawyer knows:
the planned changes in the rules can not be applied retroactively

PLEASE CHECK IT!

I ask the specific reason: why disqualified me?

Please FACTS ONLY, no comment, thanks!

Imiimi


Hello Lmiimi,

Check out two trades of this month in your profile,

How Your Team mates only get more Votes and less comments compare to other participants? How? How? How? How?

we have also lot of friends we also to do these things for win the contest means,means, means. think, this is very cheapest way to win.

this contest is not only for your country, all over the world participant are compete this CONTEST.

I give one advice to all your teams, Don't spoil other human-beings TIME & ENERGY.,


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011, 19:43 

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For ALL guest: anonimus posts from legislation ignorant people not interested!

The facts:

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "team tactics", so does not prevent the participants number of times to comment/like.

- in the current Rules NOT does not prevent the participants know each other.

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "Popularity Manipulation",

++++++++ Without a good strategy is not a chance to win +++++++++++

Dukascopy will check the account's thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi and it turns out that these people are all different peoples and have individual strategies (NOT self-commenting and self-voting from FAKE ACCOUNTS)!!!!!!!

I am still waiting for response Dukascopy only!

Greeting Kelvinmaster


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sun 06 Nov, 2011, 03:42 

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Kelvinmaster wrote:
For ALL guest: anonimus posts from legislation ignorant people not interested!

The facts:

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "team tactics", so does not prevent the participants number of times to comment/like.

- in the current Rules NOT does not prevent the participants know each other.

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "Popularity Manipulation",

++++++++ Without a good strategy is not a chance to win +++++++++++

Dukascopy will check the account's thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi and it turns out that these people are all different peoples and have individual strategies (NOT self-commenting and self-voting from FAKE ACCOUNTS)!!!!!!!

I am still waiting for response Dukascopy only!

Greeting Kelvinmaster


Hello kelvin,

Why U asking for only few peoples, lot of participants are disqualified from last month contest.

U asking for your team mates only, am i correct.


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Sun 06 Nov, 2011, 23:49 
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Kelvinmaster wrote:
For ALL guest: anonimus posts from legislation ignorant people not interested!

The facts:

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "team tactics", so does not prevent the participants number of times to comment/like.

- in the current Rules NOT does not prevent the participants know each other.

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "Popularity Manipulation",

++++++++ Without a good strategy is not a chance to win +++++++++++

Dukascopy will check the account's thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi and it turns out that these people are all different peoples and have individual strategies (NOT self-commenting and self-voting from FAKE ACCOUNTS)!!!!!!!

I am still waiting for response Dukascopy only!

Greeting Kelvinmaster



Hello thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi,

I'm not so long ago began to seriously participate in this contest and therefore tried to communicate with everyone. I noticed that in the last 2 months no response from your team I have not received. In my opinion it can mean:

1. on these names launched the strategy through an IP address, which is not convenient to reach and respond to comments.

2. These participants do not need communication with others, as they have created their command and provide comments themselves.

I think that both the case, Dukascopy's not useful. They created this contest, they pay the money, and so they set their own rules. They want to develop this contest is to help people to develop their strategies and for themselves acquire new customers. And these closed commands do not allow them to do it. Therefore, all of you, and disqualified. If you were talking not only in their private groups, then maybe things would be different.

This is my opinion. Sorry for so badly know English language. But, I hope, you understood me.

Best regards,
Egidijus Bockus


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Mon 07 Nov, 2011, 12:31 

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egidijus wrote:
Kelvinmaster wrote:
For ALL guest: anonimus posts from legislation ignorant people not interested!

The facts:

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "team tactics", so does not prevent the participants number of times to comment/like.

- in the current Rules NOT does not prevent the participants know each other.

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "Popularity Manipulation",

++++++++ Without a good strategy is not a chance to win +++++++++++

Dukascopy will check the account's thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi and it turns out that these people are all different peoples and have individual strategies (NOT self-commenting and self-voting from FAKE ACCOUNTS)!!!!!!!

I am still waiting for response Dukascopy only!

Greeting Kelvinmaster



Hello thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi,

I'm not so long ago began to seriously participate in this contest and therefore tried to communicate with everyone. I noticed that in the last 2 months no response from your team I have not received. In my opinion it can mean:

1. on these names launched the strategy through an IP address, which is not convenient to reach and respond to comments.

2. These participants do not need communication with others, as they have created their command and provide comments themselves.

I think that both the case, Dukascopy's not useful. They created this contest, they pay the money, and so they set their own rules. They want to develop this contest is to help people to develop their strategies and for themselves acquire new customers. And these closed commands do not allow them to do it. Therefore, all of you, and disqualified. If you were talking not only in their private groups, then maybe things would be different.

This is my opinion. Sorry for so badly know English language. But, I hope, you understood me.

Best regards,
Egidijus Bockus


Dear Egidijus your comment the whole silly comment.... I think I do not understand what is involved here!

Here it comes: Dukascopy that disqualified me accordance with rules which is currently not valid....., only draft!

Dukascopy to do one thing: disqualified the participant who existing rules violations ...... e.g. like you!

E.g. egidijus have massive self-commenting and self-voting from the following FAKE ACCOUNTS:

ELENA
irena
zivux
eliver
irena
saednaser
ELENA_M

PLEASE ANSWER ONLY FROM DUKASCOPY!

Greetings Kelvinmaster


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Mon 07 Nov, 2011, 13:11 
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Dear all,

For those of you making mention of legal this or legal that with regards to the issue of team tactics, please stop talking nonsense, you're making yourselves look very silly. Anyone one worth their salt knows that the organiser of a competition always includes a "get out of jail" clause to allow changes with or without notice. By agreeing to the rules you agree to allow them to change them, whenever they want, for whatever reason they see fit.

If Dukascopy have observed voting and commenting patterns amongst a particular group of participants that they believe contravene the rules as intended (even if not written), then they are perfectly within their rights to change the rules to explicitly prohibit the said actions, at any time.

At the end of the day, Dukascopy runs the competition for their benefit not yours. It's their money to give away, not yours to claim.

Good luck for the rest of the month!

RW


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Mon 07 Nov, 2011, 15:05 

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Dear Dukascopy,

violate the CURRENT RULES, only those participants who have massive self-commenting and self-voting from FAKE ACCOUNTS !!!!!

e.g. egidijus, stroegeorge, adask, anicka

p.s. another team tactics: Otaniemi & Cesar


No comment......... Regards Imimi


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Mon 07 Nov, 2011, 15:22 
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Kelvinmaster wrote:
egidijus wrote:
Kelvinmaster wrote:
For ALL guest: anonimus posts from legislation ignorant people not interested!

The facts:

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "team tactics", so does not prevent the participants number of times to comment/like.

- in the current Rules NOT does not prevent the participants know each other.

- in the current Rules NOT regulates the "Popularity Manipulation",

++++++++ Without a good strategy is not a chance to win +++++++++++

Dukascopy will check the account's thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi and it turns out that these people are all different peoples and have individual strategies (NOT self-commenting and self-voting from FAKE ACCOUNTS)!!!!!!!

I am still waiting for response Dukascopy only!

Greeting Kelvinmaster



Hello thomasr, aniko, hull , Kelvinmaster, okina13, Imiimi,

I'm not so long ago began to seriously participate in this contest and therefore tried to communicate with everyone. I noticed that in the last 2 months no response from your team I have not received. In my opinion it can mean:

1. on these names launched the strategy through an IP address, which is not convenient to reach and respond to comments.

2. These participants do not need communication with others, as they have created their command and provide comments themselves.

I think that both the case, Dukascopy's not useful. They created this contest, they pay the money, and so they set their own rules. They want to develop this contest is to help people to develop their strategies and for themselves acquire new customers. And these closed commands do not allow them to do it. Therefore, all of you, and disqualified. If you were talking not only in their private groups, then maybe things would be different.

This is my opinion. Sorry for so badly know English language. But, I hope, you understood me.

Best regards,
Egidijus Bockus


Dear Egidijus your comment the whole silly comment.... I think I do not understand what is involved here!

Here it comes: Dukascopy that disqualified me accordance with rules which is currently not valid....., only draft!

Dukascopy to do one thing: disqualified the participant who existing rules violations ...... e.g. like you!

E.g. egidijus have massive self-commenting and self-voting from the following FAKE ACCOUNTS:

ELENA
irena
zivux
eliver
irena
saednaser
ELENA_M

PLEASE ANSWER ONLY FROM DUKASCOPY!

Greetings Kelvinmaster



Dear Kelvinmaster,

I think that Dukascopy you have already answered:

“Other Rules
Dukascopy reserves the right to change the Contest rules, requirements and awards without prior notice and at any time at its sole discretion.”

If you, or someone else have a specific accusation about me - please upload them Dukascopy. And if they decide that I was wrong - I will agree with them, because they here set out the rules and decide who is right and who is wrong.

I participate in contest not only for the sake of a prize. Also I want to develop own strategy. And you seem to be involved only for the sake of a prize, if so did not want to agree with Dukascopy decision. This is one difference between us.

Another difference - I communicate with all who communicates with me and even more. It is not difficult to verify. With difficulty find the participant of the contest, which I did not write. And those people who write me and support me - is not my team. They just like my strategy and the communication with me. If you thoroughly analyze, you will see that they change over time. If there is something more permanent, they do not make up a large part of all the participants, with whom I correspond. So your accusation about me - fully not corresponds to the reality.

Best regards,
Egidijus Bockus


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Mon 07 Nov, 2011, 18:04 
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I think it is very difficult to define "fair play" by rules and I hope Dukascopy will find a way to make participants satisfaction come back. Hoping that the contest will not be stopped due to all this discussions, because it is very useful to share development with other people on this unique platform.


 
 Post subject: Re: Team tactics Post rating: 0   New post Posted: Tue 08 Nov, 2011, 16:23 

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Hey kids!

At the end this is a great competition platform sponsered by Dukascopy, defined by their rules – including the right to modify the very same rules at any time. You may or may not agree with Dukascopys decision to disqualify some of the participants of a past contest period (in my opinion the new rules are inline with the spirit of the existing ones therefore I agree with Dukascopy), but you always have the choice to leave the contest – there are many similar ones provided by other fx brokers. Try one of these if Dukascopy pissed you of but do not blame them for acting according their own rules and disqualify some of the contest participants violating rule 8 (read it carefully, it starts: 'Among other,...').

Further more I completely agree with schnitzel.


 

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